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PostSubject: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:16 pm

Bearings, Brake Pads & Spacers Oh My...

Well the "AllBall" bearings are bad after only one year and 2000 miles, brake pads are almost gone on all four corners; only really enough left to see where they were glued on at, no rivets luckily.
I read somewhere that the top and bottom spacers inside the rear hubs go bad causing quicker wear and tear on the brake pads and bearings, which I think was some of my troubles this go round on the rear pads and bearings. On the up side, I've gotten very fast at pulling the wheels, hubs and spindles off the bike, the only patience and time needed are pressing the old bearings out and taking your time putting the new ones back in straight. New brake pads are ready and waiting, PivotWorks bearings are being pressed in this time around and coming soon to a mailbox near me will be four new rear spacers and axle nuts for all four corners.



Ol' Red has 5200 miles on it.



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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:26 pm

If your going to play, your going to PAY. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:37 pm

True... but considering I've only needed brake pads, wheel bearings along with filter and oil changes till now I think I'm doing pretty good.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:25 am

fun..fun..fun
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:59 am

Mine needs some attention, but I'm waiting for warmer weather to work out in the garage since Santa didn't buy me a propane heater.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:43 am

I thought that everyone that owned multiple out door recreational vehicles, had a heated Garage or Building, to store them in and do the necessary repair work.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:56 am

I'm lucky enough to just have the room to store them and that's it.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:29 am

I am ashamed to say that my lovely wife bought me a nice natural gas heater for my garage. I mounted it on the ceiling two years ago and I have yet to have the gas lines run. Man I got to get that done!!
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:48 pm

You should be ashamed... get on that project! lol!

In the garage I fire it up to a blistery temp quick with my 200,000 BTU "Beast".



In the basement to be more conservative on odors this is a must.

18,000 BTU "Big Buddy" Heater

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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:51 pm



This is the one I have.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:06 pm

That's what I heat the Willie Wagon with if I don't have 110v available.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:37 pm

It doesn't take much to heat an (average household) attached garage. I used to heat mine with a Mr. Heater attachment that fit a 20 lb propane tank. Worked just fine at getting the garage to sweatshirt temps in around an hour. I now have a (ventless) wall mounted gas heater. That's the ticket. Tee shirt temps in 30 minutes. The only drawback might be the extra moisture it puts in your garage. It would be a bad choice for a wood workers workshop, but not a problem for the every-once-in-a-while weekend machanic. I priced units similarly to DJ's pic. No drawbacks to that type of setup, except of course, the cost. You can have some serious money wrapped up in one of those babies. Electricity to the unit. External chimney. You can even go completely anal and run cold-air return vents.

Don't be scared, Ruger. Treat yourself (and your Grizz's) to some heat!
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:12 pm

Well... since there's time for a commercial break, here's a quick story since we brought up Reddy Heaters.
(and it sparked a food related memory too)

It made me think about a small reddy heater that we used when I was younger while working part-time for a contractor. Usually most of the houses that we built had a basement that we would tarp off one large corner for a break area after putting down the subfloor. This would be where all the construction adhesives, drywall joint compound, etc. were stored to keep them from freezing in the wintertime.

Well the reddy heater ran off & on consistent through day & night to keep everything just above the freezing temps and it made a very nice place to have lunch and take breaks. Cold sandwiches all the time were get pretty boring, to me at least, so we started cooking hot dogs in front of the heater using insulation support hanger wires. Yummy ~ instant hot lunch. We then got creative with grilled ham and cheese sandwiches and everything thing like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:36 pm

Reminds me of "manifold burgers"!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:28 am

Heat for RZR maintenance

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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:29 pm

wacker wrote:
Bearings, Brake Pads & Spacers Oh My...

Well the "AllBall" bearings are bad after only one year and 2000 miles, brake pads are almost gone on all four corners; only really enough left to see where they were glued on at, no rivets luckily.
I read somewhere that the top and bottom spacers inside the rear hubs go bad causing quicker wear and tear on the brake pads and bearings, which I think was some of my troubles this go round on the rear pads and bearings. On the up side, I've gotten very fast at pulling the wheels, hubs and spindles off the bike, the only patience and time needed are pressing the old bearings out and taking your time putting the new ones back in straight. New brake pads are ready and waiting, PivotWorks bearings are being pressed in this time around and coming soon to a mailbox near me will be four new rear spacers and axle nuts for all four corners.

Well back on track... The new PivotWorks wheel bearings are installed.

New rear hub spacers are ready to go back in along with new brake pads on four corners.

Trouble is I've got a couple of ball joints up front that have torn rubber boots from me using a pickle fork the first go round when I replaced bearings.

So... anyone with ideas on getting those out Question
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:55 pm

Dont know the correct way but like I said I put Jos hub in a vice and pounded it out with a hammer and punch. Getting it back end was the killer. I ended up tearing the rubber boot which kind of defeated the purpose of changing it to begin with
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:35 pm

I hear ya on the BIG Hammer.... this is what I felt like lately.
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Since any job that I don't have the right tools for automatically requires
three and half hands, I called up the great and all knowing "Mighty Midget".
Together we worked on clamping down the front hubs to a 2x4 and
pressing the lower ball joints out using the shop press; what a chore. Rolling Eyes
The upper ball joints were still in the A-arms connected to the bike and needed
to be hammered out using a 2 foot piece of 2x4 standing up vertical on the floor.
Four new ball joints are on their way, how I'm going to put it all back together. scratch

Here's a few pictures of the aftermath...




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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:37 pm

WOW what a project.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:51 pm

I know how I would do it. but it would be hard to explain it here. So you can give me a call if you need help with it. You will need a piece of pipe, a big socket the right size and the balljoints put in the freezer for a few hrs. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:48 am

I tried used the big socket trying to put Jos back together Jeff and if you look at the pics you see that the rubber pushes out further than than the balljoint. So I sprayed some lube on the rubber and slide the socket down over it as carefully as I could. Drove the balljoint in and of course when I took the socket back off it had pinched the rubber and cut it...arggggg

Did I mention I'm looking to get rid of some old atvs LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:38 pm

Thinking the 450 joints may be different... not sure though ~ I've seen both different styles on eBay.

These go down in from the top with a large flange on top and cir-clip around the middle ~ from a force and pressure mind set it seems that everything is installed backwards from the way I think it should be. BUT everythings worked fine for 5300 miles except I pinched the boots the first time pulling the hubs off or I wouldn't even be worrying about it now.

So, I thought about ordering the correct tool set this morning because it sure would be nice to have "the right tool for the job."
So with the part numbers from the Yama' service manual in hand I started dialing some different numbers;
1st guy - those numbers aren't in the system
2nd guy - those numbers aren't in our system
3rd guy - we can't sell this items to the general public
4th guy - "Bingo" yeah let me get you some pricing and call you back, cool now we're getting somewhere.
"now there's 3 different numbered smaller sets that make up one big set"
He calls back in a while...
I'm thinking something the size a deck of playing cards can't hardly be anymore then a buck/buck fifty ~ or maybe two at the most...

MAN!!! o DAY!!! Guess I'm still looking for a way re-install the ball joints when they come in the mail. Shocked

CLICK HERE if you need a good laugh like I got this morning. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:53 pm

A couple of things come to mind:

A: With all the Grizzlies here, perhap a communal tool chest is in order.
2: That tool doesn't look that tough to make.

When I get home, I'll dig up some pics of a couple of clutch tools I made for my BF.
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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:58 pm

Good point TW ~

at the $200 mark I would have shared it with anyone needing it,

BUT at $400 all I'm thinking about is a new set of BigHorns

with enough left over for a Nice Dinner. lol!

Yeah after really studying the picture and thinking about it more this
afternoon I believe I've got enough stuff here to maybe make it work.

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PostSubject: Re: Grizzy 700 Maintenance   Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:10 am

Hey Wack I'm no machinist but I could make that in the garage. And I bet you could also. Maybe a little help from a local machine shop. I have done that in the past with some specialty tools form the dealer. There prices are outrageous.
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